{ Friday, February 21, 2003 }
I've started a new weblog, Poems about War, where I will be posting poems from our most eloquent poets, speaking against war, for peace, for life, against death.
LINK | 7:46 PM | TB
Oh, no, definitely not. I put a little line on the sidebar to send me suggestions for appropriate poems. Thanks for that one! I will read it now!
Caterina | February 21, 2003 10:55 PMDespite how politically correct your project is, don't you think a slightly less life-affirming, but probably more interesting web page could be set up, chronicling poems that are for death, and for violence? Kantian super-niceness may be pleasant to think about, but we do after all live in a post-modern world more influences by the likes of Nietzsche. And Nietzsche liked violence, poetry, dancing and the life that death inspired in us.
At the risk of being slightly gauche i'll throw in a quote from a marilyn manson song: "Without the threat of death there's no reason to live at all."
I think the idea of using poetry to talk about war (and peace and death) is a bittersweet,very personal way to generate a discussion of war and its implications
May I suggest "Spring in Wartime" by Sara Teasdale which you can find on Bartleby.
And in the spirit of signing off with a quote, mine is from Emma Goldman -- "if I can't dance,i don't want to be in your revolution."
peace,
francesa | February 22, 2003 10:22 AMThanks for your suggestion, Francesa.
Tom, it's interesting that you should bring that up. I called the weblog "Poems About War" and not "Poems Against War" because the issue is a complex one, and I wanted to be able to examine the issue from as many angles as possible, using poetry as a springboard.
As I was posting "An Irish Airman foresees his Death" by Yeats, it seemed to me that it could be read as death-embracing and war-neutral. Which is a perfectly valid viewpoint.
I hate being called 'politically correct' -- it is an easy epithet to throw at someone when you don't want to engage with them, a reductive way of denying them, and their ideas, complexity and humanity.
I hadn't given Marilyn Manson much thought until I saw him in "Bowling for Columbine", but in that film he was quite articulate and seemed to be carrying around a lot of interesting ideas. Your quote reminded me somewhat of my friend's habitual toast -- he'd raise his glass and say, "To life! For without it we'd be dead."
Thanks for the poem recommendation via email too, Tom. I'll have a look at it.
Caterina | February 22, 2003 12:49 PMI apologize for the epithet. I thought perhaps it was linked in concept and intent to the Poets Against the War project (although containing better poems). Since the poetry projects are linguistic and symbolic examinations of politics, and since the political Left created the term 'politically correct' to refer to their conception of language and how it shapes politics, I connected the Poems about War to political correctness.
(For the record I consider myself neither or the Left nor of the Right, and am not registered with a political party.)
I perceived the project to be stricly against war and death because the post announcing it reads: "...where I will be posting poems from our most eloquent poets, speaking against war, for peace, for life, against death." Thanks for clarifying things in your comment though.
Oops! Sorry about the double post. The song the manson quote was taken from is called "Reflecting God"
tom | February 22, 2003 4:20 PMFixed, Tom, thanks.
Caterina | February 22, 2003 5:44 PMYay! Nice! Don't omit "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner" by Randall Jarrell, or lots of things by Wilfred Owen! :)
Oooh, wonderful!
I love Wilfred Owen too. But that just might be my predilection for Britten!
yukino (Selva) | February 23, 2003 10:59 AM"Naming of Parts" by Henry Reed.
David | February 24, 2003 2:05 AMWonderful idea! Please consider Sandburg's poems "Iron," "Among the Red Guns," "Statistics," and, of course, "Grass."
Anna | February 24, 2003 3:19 PMThe greatest weakness of most humans is their hesitancy to tell others how much they love them while they're alive.
For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it.
For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it.
For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.
I think that your work is excellent and that you should be published all over the world
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blob hehe | May 11, 2003 11:57 AMthis was very interesting...yes it was..i like that one poem...ya that waas cool...there are a lot of good things about this site keep up the great work! love ya
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Would it be too awful to suggest a poem to you? Amy Lowell has a number of anti-war poems in "Men, Women, and Ghosts"--I'm thinking mainly of Patterns, which is a tad long to include in a comment.
Stephanie | February 21, 2003 8:27 PM