{ Tuesday, April 1, 2003 }
This really cheeses me off: Pour Bush, Saddam Hussein est responsable de tout (I have been reading the international papers to get a more complete perspective on the war.) This translates as: For Bush, Saddam Hussein is responsible for everything. In the article, Press Secretary Ari Fleisher is quoted as saying:
Which (badly translated by me) says, The president always regrets the loss of innocent lives.... But he also knows that most of the innocent people who have been killed in this war have been killed by Saddam Hussein and his goons. They are the ones who should be blamed for the loss of innocent lives..
Which is, in Stewart's example, the equivalent of the man beating his wife while screaming, "fckyouyoudumbfckingbitch!ifyouwouldjustshutthefckupiwouldstophittingyou!". Foisting responsibility for your actions off onto the person you are inflicting your actions upon is morally repugnant. Or foisting responsibility onto God for that matter. We have killed their people, and they have killed our people. Shouldn't that be obvious?
Innocent people will always die in wartime. According to the Iraq body count there have been between 493-652 Iraqi civilian deaths since the start of the war. The Allied military death count is currently at 71 (US & UK). The loss of innocent lives is probably the primary reason why so many people have been so strenuously protesting this war. If you're going to wage war, innocent people are going to die. Bush needs to accept responsibility for these deaths. Yes, it's just political rhetoric, and business as usual. But I for one really want the words of our leaders to mean something.
Also: when I mentioned the civilian death statistics to David the other night, he said that while every single death is atrocious, these numbers came nowhere near the number of people that died during WWII, when hundreds of thousands of civilians died almost every day. Here is a chart I found of WWII casualties. 61 million dead, 40 million of them civilians. And in many countries, more civilians than soldiers. Horrifying.
LINK | 12:42 PM | TB
I am reflexively antiwar myself, but innocent people will die anyway. The World Health Organization estimates that nearly 1.2 billion people (20% of the world's population) lack access to clean drinking water, resulting in more than five million deaths annually from unsafe drinking water. That works out to about 9 people a minute, meaning roughly 13,000 people have died in the time lapse between this post and this comment from waterborne diseases.
This war is not about oil. It is about TV channels not having found anything better to get cheap tv programs.
Anybody who believes that SH is the most dangerous lunatic in town _is_ a dangerous lunatic.
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when all is said and done, the "War on Terror" begins only now that terrorists have a 30 year head start. Like all wars before it, there will be innocent men, women and children killed well beyond the 3000+ Americans mass murdered on national TV on 9/11. That's the price of war. The world will not miss these thousands of fantical Muslum terrorists voted off the planet and only then will we move on. The rest is commentary.
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The inevitable death of innocents is one of many reason I am against the war.
But I cannot ignore that, strategically, innocent death is in Iraq's favor and works against the U.S. This is a PR war as well.
The fact that Sadaam's tactics purposely blur the line between non-combatants and combatants is sickening. In my eyes, Sadaam does bear the majority of responsibility for the death of innocents.
The fact that our side is taking admirable care to avoid civilian death is heartening. But the fact that we continue to play a game that Sadaam has stacked to manufacture innocent death makes us responsible too. We know Saddam's schtick and we continue to drop bombs.
Cody | April 2, 2003 7:40 AM