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{ Monday, January 2, 2006 }

MT & Wench

I am considering moving Caterina.net off of Movable Type and onto Blogger or Word Press; Movable Type is completely hosed with the 7500+ comments I've had on this blog -- the comments page on the admin interface won't load, even after an upgrade to the latest version. I don't think MT was really designed to handle a site with 1,000s of pages and comments, as this site has after 6-7 years, -- though I think it's likely the Berkeley database it's running on. Nonetheless, I have both Blogger and Word Press blogs, and their comment spam handling is so much better than Movable Type's, which basically forces people to use TypeKey -- and I don't want commenters to have to sign up for another service just to prove they're legit so they can comment on my blog. It's a big hassle switching over, but I might have to give it a go. First I'm going to try going from Berkeley to MySQL for the database and see if that fixes all the hell.

In other news, I have relaunched Wench, which has been asleep for almost six years now! Woo!

LINK | 10:26 PM | TB

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Unless you're on truly ancient hardware, the move to MySQL will make all the difference. Trust me.

MT is pretty quick for me, with thousands of posts and tens of thousands of comments. And my hardwareis 4 years old!

Jeremy Zawodny | January 2, 2006 10:59 PM

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I'm having similar issues with my MT site, with its 2500+ entries and 9500+ comments. I'm having a very smart small boy look it over, and he's checking if 'dynamic' archive pages will help. I'm not optimistic.

Darren | January 2, 2006 11:37 PM

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Had a similar experience and finally moved to WordPress, although I lost most of my old blog (trouble with encoding...)

miladus | January 3, 2006 4:41 AM

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Hi Caterina,

I felt the same way about MT, but putting everything into a MySQL DB instead of using Berkeley and then upgrading to 3.2 seems to have addressed the problems very well. I was very sceptical that it could make that much of a difference, but it has, and people aren't forced to use Typekey (de facto or de jure).

Good luck!

Michael | January 3, 2006 5:17 AM

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I'm having similar issues with my MT site, with its 2500 entries and 9500 comments. I'm having a very smart small boy look it over, and he's checking if 'dynamic' archive pages will help. I'm not optimistic.

Darren | January 3, 2006 7:56 AM

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Switching sounds like it will be some feat, but I guess that's what you have to do: vote with your feat.

eeksypeeksy | January 3, 2006 10:14 AM

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Hi Caterina. I'm sorry to hear that you're having problems. Have you contacted our tech support team yet? I'm sure that they can solve all of the problems that you're having in no time.

Movable Type has no problem scaling to tens of thousands of comments, entries and TrackBacks and sites like Gawker, Sterogum, all of the *ist sites (Gothamist, SFist, etc) bear that out. The limitation you may be experiencing almost certainly BerkeleyDB (which is most likely a very old version). We strongly recommend MySQL or SQLite for both performance and reliability reasons.

The anti-spam features of Movable Type 3.2 should be working seamlessly and like magic, so I'm going to guess that there's a misconfiguration at work which I know we can fix.

We have Movable Type installations I'd also like to get your off of BerkeleyDB and onto a real database. Once that happens, you'll see how well MT scales

There are a lot of great reasons to stick with Movable Type and we'd like not to lose you. I'm quite sure that we can not only fix the problem you're having, but also in the end, give you a far better experience than either Wordpress or Blogger can give you.

Finally, MT 3.2's anti-spam protection has proven to be highly accurate and effective. I've investigated a number of people's installations who complained of problems and in every case the culprit has been a misconfiguration of some sort. I'm sure that we can get it working correctly if we took a look at it.

Contact me jay at sixapart dot com when you get a second and we'll get you set up right.

Jay Allen | January 3, 2006 11:27 AM

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i've had experience using and administering all three (blogger, mt and wp) for myself, friends and family and i definitely think wordpress is where it's at. it's easy to install, adminster and very extensible. i like using it more than blogger and mt.

that said, i'd take jay up on his offer first before making a switch.

jeff | January 3, 2006 8:43 PM

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